Obama provokes more anger, and fear

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The Memos Prove We Didn’t Torture ***

.President releases secret information about CIA interrogation and intelligence gathering.

“The release of these opinions was unnecessary as a legal matter, and is unsound as a matter of policy. Its effect will be to invite the kind of institutional timidity and fear of recrimination that weakened intelligence gathering in the past, and that we came sorely to regret on Sept. 11, 2001.”                        

Former CIA Director Hayden &  former Attorney General Mukasey         

(Full statement: link at bottom of the page.)

.Cheney says release all reports and documents showing the full range of issues, methods, debates & results. (see comments below)

Inexcusable Lapse  IBD

April 17, 2009

War On Terror: Imagine a president of the United States, within his first hundred days, revealing secrets that help terrorists kill. The secret memos on enhanced interrogation, now made public, do exactly that.

We are told by President Obama’s senior adviser David Axelrod that the president agonized for four weeks over the “weighty decision” to make public memoranda detailing the specifics of the CIA’s tough interrogation of high-value terrorist detainees such as 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad.

For most other presidents, it would have taken maybe four minutes, required little soul-searching and resulted in the opposite choice.

What on earth could the president have been thinking in revealing the nuts and bolts of how we extract information from al-Qaida operatives to prevent the success of their terrorist operations?

What could have possessed him to make public the steps our interrogators go through, the limits of pain and discomfort they (but not the prisoners) know they will not exceed, and the analytical classification and specific purpose of each of the various techniques?

These top secrets will arm Islamist jihadists with knowledge that will be invaluable to them. Future terrorist detainees will now know, for instance, that their interrogations are under continual video surveillance to make sure no lasting medical or psychological consequences result from the techniques used. Will they now teach themselves to fake such ill effects?

Terrorists will know that when they are placed in a tiny container in “cramped confinement” it will last only “up to two hours,” as a declassified memo from the Justice Department to the CIA noted. They will know that “stress positions” are used “only to induce temporary muscle fatigue” not “severe physical pain.”

They will now know that when subjected to “water dousing” they need not have the slightest fear of hypothermia, because every precaution is taken to keep the temperature of both the room and the water itself far above freezing.

They will know sleep deprivation inflicted by the interrogators seldom exceeds 96 hours, and they’ll know the specifics and purposes behind the relatively mild technique of “dietary manipulation.”

What the president has given to our enemies is a treasure chest of defensive weapons. Within the caves of the mountainous Pakistan/Afghanistan border, Islamofascist plotters must wonder how self-destructively corrupt their American adversaries have to be to allow such materials to land in their hands.

The piece of information that may be of most value to terrorists is the government’s assessment that waterboarding was “the most traumatic of the enhanced interrogation techniques” and implicitly the most effective.

Terrorist groups around the world will now know that waterboarding was “authorized for, at most, one 30-day period, during which the technique can actually be applied on no more than five days” with “no more than two sessions in any 24-hour period.”

Each session lasted no more than two hours, consisting of, at most, six applications of water for 10 seconds each time, for a total of no longer than 12 minutes per each 24-hour period. Presumably the issue is academic since the Obama administration has officially prohibited waterboarding.

There is no more valuable tool for subjects of interrogation than to know what they will be subjected to. How in good conscience could our president have given this gift to those trying to destroy us?

President’s statement

Additional:

From- Gen. Hayden was director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2006 to 2009. Mr. Mukasey was attorney general of the United States from 2007 to 2009.

The President Ties His Own Hands on Terror

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Colonel slams Obama’s release of Bush memos

April 18, 2009
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
A former Army colonel says President Obama gave all the terrorists planning to do “bad things” to the United States a huge assurance today when he released memos from the Bush presidency regarding interrogation techniques for such suspects. The actions were “bad form, bad tactics, bad strategy until this war is over,” according to retired U.S. Army Col. Bob Maginnis.

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95324

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The four memos on CIA interrogation released by the White House last week reveal a cautious and conservative Justice Department advising a CIA that cared deeply about staying within the law. Far from “green lighting” torture — or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment of detainees — the memos detail the actual techniques used and the many measures taken to ensure that interrogations did not cause severe pain or degradation.

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INSULT FRIENDS.KISS ENEMIES

 

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9 Responses to Obama provokes more anger, and fear

  1. Unlike you, the president is a human being.

  2. Allan Erickson says:

    I see. So if I understand you correctly, by posting information, news and commentary you don’t like, that automatically makes me an animal? Therefore, Mohamed judges who is and who is not human based on whether or not we agree or disagree with him?

    How very omniscient of you.

    Easier to stand by and watch people die when you believe they are not human, eh Mohamed?

    Let’s run the logic line out a bit further shall we?

    According to Mohamed, the President proves his humanity by releasing secret memos about CIA interrogation techniques. Why did the government wish to keep these matters secret? It appears a former CIA director, a former attorney general and a retired Army colonel all agree Mr. Obama was exceedingly unwise releasing this information, as they’ve articulated above.

    I note none of them questioned his humanity.

    Mohamed, did you read the memos? If so, you certainly discovered the only technique that might be remotely termed ‘torture’ was waterboarding.

    Three 9/11 perpetrators were sprayed in the face with water for a few seconds when all other interrogation methods failed. They talked, we learned a ton about al Qaeda, and saved thousands of innocent civilians as a result.

    What is more inhumane? Playing paddy cake with murderers and allowing terror attacks to claim thousands of American lives, or spraying three guys for a few seconds to get vital intelligence to save thousands of lives.

    Answer is obvious. I’d even venture to assert spraying water in a guy’s face is not torture, not even inhumane. Letting civilians get murdered, that most certainly is inhumane, and now that Mr. Obama has handed advantages to our enemies, more innocent Americans will die who might have otherwise lived.

    As to real animals committing real acts of brutality, how about the inhumanity visited upon Daniel Perle and Nick Berg? Those poor boys had their heads slowly sliced off by a knife-wielding animal. Any outrage there Mohamed?

    How about statistics found here:

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    13,000 terror attacks since 9/11 killing thousands upon thousands and wounding even more.

    686 murdered last month alone.

    Who is human? Who is not human?

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Third+Jihad&www_google_domain=www.google.com&emb=0#

    Visit Mohamed’s website. He loves Hamas. Hates the Jews. Interesting.

    http://iqsoft.co.in

    You can bet I’ll be contacting the FBI about this interaction.

  3. “You can bet I’ll be contacting the FBI about this interaction.”

    oooh I cant wait….

  4. Allan Erickson says:

    Nice to see you actually read the entire text. Did you read the released memos? How about watching this documentary? It is scholarly, comprehensive and provides answers as to why people are rightly alarmed when Muslims call people non-human. You’ll notice I’ve not insulted you. You appear quite accomplished however.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781

  5. Allan Erickson says:

    FORMER VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY: (4.20.09)
    “One of the things that I find a little bit disturbing about this recent disclosure is they put out the legal memos, the memos that the CIA got from the Office of Legal Counsel, but they didn’t put out the memos that showed the success of the effort. And there are reports that show specifically what we gained as a result of this activity. They have not been declassified.”

    “I formally asked that they be declassified now. I haven’t announced this up until now, I haven’t talked about it, but I know specifically of reports that I read, that I saw that lay out what we learned through the interrogation process and what the consequences were for the country.”

    “And I’ve now formally asked the CIA to take steps to declassify those memos so we can lay them out there and the American people have a chance to see what we obtained and what we learned and how good the intelligence was, as well as to see this debate over the legal opinions.”

  6. Allan Erickson says:

    Mohamed:

    The FBI got back to me. They can’t bother with you. They are too busy shooting video of people attending Tea Parties.

  7. Yo Allan,

    You are wrong again. The FBI were busy alright. They were busy trying to recruit me for spying on Muslims. Read more about it here…

    http://mohamediqbalp.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/the-fbi-the-islamic-center-of-irvine-and-craig-monteilh/

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